Ezra Klein & Derek Thompson – Redefining Liberalism with “Abundance” | The Daily Show
Ezra Klein & Derek Thompson – Redefining Liberalism with “Abundance” | The Daily Show
New York Times Opinion columnist Ezra Klein and staff writer for The Atlantic, Derek Thompson, talk to Jordan Klepper about their new book, “Abundance,” which details how lawmakers can solve the affordability crisis by “building and inventing more of what we need.” They also discuss how Democrats can build a more effective opposition to Trump by using their power in blue cities and states to implement results-oriented policy and create a positive party identity. #DailyShow #EzraKlein #DerekThompson
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Regrettably, that’s no longer the case! Mr. Satire, your era has gone.
These guys are basically Republicans. They have to be ignored.
Haven’t read the book, but as someone who works in low-income housing if this interview is anything to go by these two do not know anything about how sustainable affordable housing markets are created. Low regulation, high speed development without specific and widespread allotments for rent controlled and subsidized housing only drives rent prices up.
How is this not just neoliberalism with extra steps?
what are these closed captions?
Are Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson the current leaders, or at least faces, of the Democratic Party?
If so, what might we be able to expect from their style of leadership?
Would even a majority of Americans be receptive to their goals?
I can’t believe they mentioned Richie Torrez, the worst, most useless Democrat, who takes the most $$$ from AIPAC just like the MAGAs and they do nothing for working and middle-class Americans. Pretty big oversite on Ezra’s part to leave out legalized bribery in their book.
2 shills for the Establishment
Interesting, since that’s exactly what VP Harris proposed! Looking at regulations such as Zoning Ordinances to build more affordable housing! Which means the Election wasn’t about the economy, affordability! It was about hate of others, blaming others!
Here’s the solutions they won’t tell you about: de-commodify the housing market, tax the rich, provide universal healthcare. No more of this liberal tinkering and flowery words, nothing new is being proposed by these charlatans. This may as well be a psy-op
Dems will KEEP ON losing if they listen to the likes of Ezra Klein instead of Bernie Sanders. He represents EVERYTHING that’s wrong with the “liberal” faction of the left. These guys have NOTHING to offer the working class because they can’t even conceive of what it’s like to be working class. Enough from them!
How close is “outcomes over processes” to “ends over means”? I’m very curious bc I think there could be (and hopefully is) a distinction there, and I would be surprised if they didn’t address it in their book.
I dont think this is very different from what Dems try to do. Dems are always looking to make changes to improve the life of Americans. Look at Sen. Warren’s work. Look at the things they passed when they had control of the House. (Didnt pass GOP controlled Senate.)
That said, Dems have been lost and unfocused. At the same time, the way this guy is speaking, he is pretending that there are tons of Dem controlled states. I agree with the ideas, but saying Dems are doing nothing about housing or for families, affordability, etc…, is wrong. People just dont know whats happening in blue states.
Ok, so build more houses..put houses on top of houses, have more babies and let’s decrease the amount of space…really???? Overpopulation!!!
2 trust fund dolts…echoing Koch Brothers race to the bottom in wages
This interview is a perfect example of how elite liberalism repackages neoliberal solutions as progressivism while ensuring nothing fundamentally changes.
1. Deregulation without public housing, rent control, or wealth redistribution just means more luxury condos and corporate landlords, not housing for working-class people.
2. more housing doesn’t mean affordable housing unless you remove profit incentives and regulate against speculation.
3. If deregulation alone solved affordability, then why are markets like Miami (which deregulated massively) still unaffordable?
4. Trump didn’t cause the housing crisis—decades of market-driven housing policy did.
5. They make it sound ambitious while keeping everything market-driven.
– No mention of public ownership of housing or utilities.
– No mention of breaking up private monopolies on land and energy.
– No discussion of wealth redistribution or taxing the rich to fund these projects.
6. The “positive vision” they’re selling is just neoliberalism with better PR.
We need the Public to OWN things collectively. It makes the sov cits AND socialists happy
This is just Bill/Hilary Clinton & Obama-era (1990’s to 2015) neoliberal corporatism, just re-packaged in a shiny sparkly new package, attempting to use as "progressive" language as possible. A major part of the "Abundance" core argument here is deregulation and privitization. Maintenance of the liberal status-quo. I do not trust it AT ALL.
Neoliberal puff piece. C’mon, Jordan, lean in.
What an insane liberal take. Yeah. What you guys need is less regulation. That’s exactly what America of all places needs. Less regulations. I can’t believe liberals are still clinging to this idea. If another Bernie-esque candidate gets elected in a primairy, they’ll go for the establishment candidate again. You heard Rahm Emanuel yesterday. These guys are so done. Say hello to a third Trump term btw.
It is widely known that democrats CONTROL through regulations and the result is stifling to any progress. This is why the FED is so large and filled with corruption. To make the rusted machine begrudgingly move, lobbyists and PAK’s became, sadly, necessary.
Public sector unions hold the Democratic party captive. Until that changes Blue states will be moving backwards
dereks one of "those" flippers that doesn’t care about the environment when it’s convenient.no need to buy his whatevers.
The vast majority of housing policltics are local.
So, to everyone who likes what they hear in this segment…
Are you showing up to your local zoning board and municipal meetings to say yes to more housing?
Or do you complain about increases in crime or how that new denser building will ruin the neighborhood?
If you want to solve the housing cost issue show up and be a YIMBY. Demonstrate to your local politicians and covil servants that the NIMBYs are a minority.
Arguably, another way to address the scarcity crisis is to address immigration. And the vast costs of funding US imperialism and other countries’ wars. Do the authors do this in their book?
Solarpunk!
This is a lot of horsesh1t. Please do not fall for this people. The ‘scarcity’ exists because the rich and the powerful derive wealth from the scarcity. Housing scarcity means the powerful local landlords can extract higher rents. Apartment units built are high end rentals that cater to a richer clientele resulting in much higher rents collected. Healthcare is denied because health insurance companies ‘gotta make that profit’ and your drugs and medical procedures are an impediment. So who does Klein and Thompson expect will legislate all this ‘abundance’ for the deprived masses? The politicians who are bought off by the rich elite who derive greater profits from the scarcity? This is the problem with liberals like Klein and Thompson, they refuse to target the rich and powerful and think those very actors will sit idly by while their taxes get raised by any government investment or regulation is imposed on them that negatively impact their profits. Any legislative or regulatory victory will be targeted for reversal by a cadre of pathologically greedy elite who will marshal their vast resources to buy off enough politicians to reverse any gains the people attain. That is why ignoring the source of societal dysfunction is foolish and will doom any gains to be reversed.
Their ideas about zoning are wrong. You need to change how housing is financed and take it out of the hands of greedy developers and Hedge Funds. Maybe a little zoning changes but putting housing anywhere because it’s needed is not the way to go. We could also invest in our existing housing stock with new and innovative ways. We also need to place importance home ownership and make it more affordable for a broader swath of our community members.
Democrats had a trifecta of control in Michigan and mostly wasted it and lost it in 2024. Such a shame.
Ezra Klein is going to be the Democratic presidential candidate someday
This is literally just conservatism in disguise. He promotes removing gov’t red tape, which is the exact same set of principles an Elon Musk with a chainsaw has regarding improving Americans’ lives.
Ezra for Prez.
💯💯💯💯💯
People are drowning in their own ignorance. Economy and civics, government should be mandatory in schools. Not just college. Schools. Teach our idiots to recognize what is real and what is the evil little man behind the curtain. It’s ridiculous to not recognize a conman mobster.
The difference is that China can do whatever they want. USA won’t do anything. Money is owned by the greed department.
Ezra Klein reminds me of a cat about to pounce…weird posture, laser eye contact…but Jordan Klepper is a fellow cat, out for the same prey, so it’s just a weird look, Ezra.
As a leftist this was horrifying to listen to…liberals trying to piecemeal reform to hide their failures. Not one mention of money in politics. Clown show
I think they really conflate “liberals” with the “left” beca true leftists are not fans of the neoliberal policies which have chipped away our protections and have empowered large corporations by subsidizing and bailing them out time after time.
I have listened to their arguments and they completely miss the largest issue in America which is the wealth inequality and they don’t have an answer to that problem which we had solved all the way back to the 1950s which is tax the rich more.
We have a measure of power in our world and it’s called money. Billionaires have outsized power in this country and it is, by definition, undemocratic.
These two people might be well intentioned, but they are constrained in their thought by limiting their myopic view through the lens of neoliberalism.
Pumped for Derek. Their message to liberals on housing is essential.
@Ezra: Do you endorse raising taxes on the *corporate class* – not just billionaires – to make Abundance happen in healthcare, education, and transportation infrastructure?
and yet the poorest states in the union are red. More poverty, more child hunger, less affordable health care etc etc. Im with Ezra, often I do laugh, and then feel guilty about it. But man, sometimes you just gotta laugh. We do have a solution to ALL of this that nobody talks about. What is the biggest expense of everything? Energy. The solution, zero point energy economy. Have the courage to tak about that. Don’t know what Im talking about? Check out "The Lost 100 Years and how to reclaim it"
It’s the same liberal echo chamber. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Fox is the problem, not liberalism. Anywhere you go in rural or military USA you see Fox running its propaganda with bright colors and loud voices.
these two will save the democratic party
Ezra Klein and his colleagues are always worth a listen.
amazing, why am I only hearing these things from comedy central?
Thanks Ezra! I dream of a future with more charter schools and luxury condos too. Maybe an app that can get people from A to B. That would also be uber cool. Lovely Obama era dreams.
This is so spot on – it is the SINGLE most important message we all need to get…..Ezra and Derk have done the Democrats a HUGE favor!!
About the lumber crises and tariffs: 1/3 of our country,830 million acres, is covered with forests, yet because of environmental laws even fire control maintenance lumbering is forbidden. So they burn. Even after a fire, the lumber companies are forbidden to glean and remove what was scorched. America imports 80% of all our lumber! 80%! Lumber is a renewable resource! It is insane!
I live in California and we’re constantly building houses. The issue is that the STARTING price for most of these homes is $500k in a lot of cases. And that’s just here in the armpit of the Central Valley.